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		<title>By: Maria Langer</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2950</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Langer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it up, folks. I&#039;m really enjoying this. This blog post is apparently the gift that keeps on giving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep it up, folks. I&#8217;m really enjoying this. This blog post is apparently the gift that keeps on giving.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant (Falcon124) McHerron</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2949</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant (Falcon124) McHerron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Eric&#039;s comment hit it on the head:

For those who are getting all uppity &#039;cos Maria didn&#039;t like finding a bible in the fridge and wrote about it on her space on the web, how would you lot have felt if you&#039;d opened the fridge and seen one of these books (or seen a tub full of them, free to take):

The Qur&#039;an (aka Koran)?
The God Delusion by Dawkins?
Mein Kampf by Hitler?
The book of Mormon?

What would you think of the dealer? What would you say to your friends? Would you blog your *opinion* about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Eric&#8217;s comment hit it on the head:</p>
<p>For those who are getting all uppity &#8216;cos Maria didn&#8217;t like finding a bible in the fridge and wrote about it on her space on the web, how would you lot have felt if you&#8217;d opened the fridge and seen one of these books (or seen a tub full of them, free to take):</p>
<p>The Qur&#8217;an (aka Koran)?<br />
The God Delusion by Dawkins?<br />
Mein Kampf by Hitler?<br />
The book of Mormon?</p>
<p>What would you think of the dealer? What would you say to your friends? Would you blog your *opinion* about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2948</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you in the market for an RV, or simply looking for something to rip on folks about? Had this been the Koran, would you have responded differently? Please remember that our freedoms that we so casually toss about also include the freedom of choice. I hope for the sake of the dealer, you chose to go somewhere else.

Is it only fine to excersize the right to free speech as long as it agrees with your views? Too many people use this as a sheild to promote their view while refusing the same right to others of differing opinion.

I am not a &quot;bible thumper&quot;, however I am savvy enough to realize that if I don&#039;t like the way someone does business, I do have other choices for the same or similar products. I don&#039;t see the need to slam someone just because they differ in religious views. If someone asks me, I can tell them my opinion, but truthfully, what or whom did this hurt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you in the market for an RV, or simply looking for something to rip on folks about? Had this been the Koran, would you have responded differently? Please remember that our freedoms that we so casually toss about also include the freedom of choice. I hope for the sake of the dealer, you chose to go somewhere else.</p>
<p>Is it only fine to excersize the right to free speech as long as it agrees with your views? Too many people use this as a sheild to promote their view while refusing the same right to others of differing opinion.</p>
<p>I am not a &#8220;bible thumper&#8221;, however I am savvy enough to realize that if I don&#8217;t like the way someone does business, I do have other choices for the same or similar products. I don&#8217;t see the need to slam someone just because they differ in religious views. If someone asks me, I can tell them my opinion, but truthfully, what or whom did this hurt?</p>
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		<title>By: GJ</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2947</link>
		<dc:creator>GJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m betting that dealership is happy you walked out without buying a rig. I&#039;m also betting that if you HAD bought a rig from them, no matter what they did for you you wouldn&#039;t be happy. Especially since you&#039;re looking for the &quot;perfect&quot; rig. Guess what? There is no such thing!

Whenever I hear of someone looking for a &quot;perfect&quot; anything, I&#039;m praying (yes, that&#039;s right, I said praying!) they walk out of my store empty-handed! They&#039;re the ones that are going to use something for an entire season, abuse it and then try to return it because it no longer works! Sorry. No one wants customers like that. Don&#039;t let the door hit you on the way out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m betting that dealership is happy you walked out without buying a rig. I&#8217;m also betting that if you HAD bought a rig from them, no matter what they did for you you wouldn&#8217;t be happy. Especially since you&#8217;re looking for the &#8220;perfect&#8221; rig. Guess what? There is no such thing!</p>
<p>Whenever I hear of someone looking for a &#8220;perfect&#8221; anything, I&#8217;m praying (yes, that&#8217;s right, I said praying!) they walk out of my store empty-handed! They&#8217;re the ones that are going to use something for an entire season, abuse it and then try to return it because it no longer works! Sorry. No one wants customers like that. Don&#8217;t let the door hit you on the way out!</p>
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		<title>By: roger woodruff</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2946</link>
		<dc:creator>roger woodruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your right there is nothing more to see here except an angry worn out used up bitter hag of a human being,try a little photo shop on that picture its so very very ugly.and thats your good side.?no wonder your alone and angry if i looked that bad I would have hated the world to.&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-133297&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Maria Langer &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your right there is nothing more to see here except an angry worn out used up bitter hag of a human being,try a little photo shop on that picture its so very very ugly.and thats your good side.?no wonder your alone and angry if i looked that bad I would have hated the world to.<a href="#comment-133297" rel="nofollow">@Maria Langer </a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2945</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole thread is just silly. The RV dealership is a private buisness so if the owner wants to give away bibles or anything else it&#039;s his choice. If it was a governement owned RV dealer then giving away bibles would be inappropriate. If Maria or anyone else has a problem with the bible being given away then just go somewhere else. To me this thread was written more to attract attention then to make a serious argument. JMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thread is just silly. The RV dealership is a private buisness so if the owner wants to give away bibles or anything else it&#8217;s his choice. If it was a governement owned RV dealer then giving away bibles would be inappropriate. If Maria or anyone else has a problem with the bible being given away then just go somewhere else. To me this thread was written more to attract attention then to make a serious argument. JMHO</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Langer</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2944</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Langer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken: First, thanks for your support. I did not want to share the dealer info because I did not feel that it was right to spotlight the dealer in such a post. But that&#039;s just me in this situation. If the dealer had done something seriously &lt;em&gt;bad&lt;/em&gt; -- for example, poor service or failed to fulfill a promise -- I would not have hesitated to put the dealer on the block.

Unfortunately, you are completely wrong about the public domain thing. This is a common mistake, too. Everything I write, no matter where it is published, is copyrighted by me. Same goes for you and what you write. And photos you take, too! I, as the content creator, have the ability to state how my written work can be used. Many writers use a creative commons license to allow certain uses of the work. My copyright is clearly stated on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aneclecticmind.com/copyright/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;©&lt;/a&gt; page of this site. You might want to consult &lt;a href=&quot;http://PlagiarismToday.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PlagiarismToday.com&lt;/a&gt; for additional insight into this matter.

As for the trailer quality -- we&#039;ve also looked at Cameos and are extremely pleased with the level of quality. There&#039;s a used one for sale here in AZ and if we don&#039;t find something better by our deadline, we&#039;ll likely buy it. Glad to see that we&#039;re not the only ones who recognize a quality product when we see one. I took a lot of heat from commenters here about wanting the &quot;perfect RV.&quot; When you expect to spend at least $50K on a purchase, it should be just right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken: First, thanks for your support. I did not want to share the dealer info because I did not feel that it was right to spotlight the dealer in such a post. But that&#8217;s just me in this situation. If the dealer had done something seriously <em>bad</em> &#8212; for example, poor service or failed to fulfill a promise &#8212; I would not have hesitated to put the dealer on the block.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you are completely wrong about the public domain thing. This is a common mistake, too. Everything I write, no matter where it is published, is copyrighted by me. Same goes for you and what you write. And photos you take, too! I, as the content creator, have the ability to state how my written work can be used. Many writers use a creative commons license to allow certain uses of the work. My copyright is clearly stated on the <a href="http://www.aneclecticmind.com/copyright/" rel="nofollow">©</a> page of this site. You might want to consult <a href="http://PlagiarismToday.com" rel="nofollow">PlagiarismToday.com</a> for additional insight into this matter.</p>
<p>As for the trailer quality &#8212; we&#8217;ve also looked at Cameos and are extremely pleased with the level of quality. There&#8217;s a used one for sale here in AZ and if we don&#8217;t find something better by our deadline, we&#8217;ll likely buy it. Glad to see that we&#8217;re not the only ones who recognize a quality product when we see one. I took a lot of heat from commenters here about wanting the &#8220;perfect RV.&#8221; When you expect to spend at least $50K on a purchase, it should be just right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maria,

First, I too, would have been offended by this bible incident and as a blogger would probably have done a similar blog, but would have exposed the name of that dealership, as well. However, if what was mentioned on the RV Daily report about threatening a law suit, then I think you have gone too far. Anything written on a blog becomes public domain. Personally I would be tickled pink if a blog post I wrote was picked up and repeated by another blog. Of course, I would have liked credit by mentioning my blog for the article. But they have now mentioned the source of this article which is the reason I am here now. So I too, think you need to chill out, over the law suit issue.

But having said all of this, I would like to recommend you look at a Carriage 5th wheel. I just purchased a Cameo about 4 months ago and am delighted with the quality craftsmanship of this RV. You would not be disappointed at all, with this 5th wheel. (No, I have no association with the company other than owning one of their products) I know I a very satisfied with the purchase.

Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maria,</p>
<p>First, I too, would have been offended by this bible incident and as a blogger would probably have done a similar blog, but would have exposed the name of that dealership, as well. However, if what was mentioned on the RV Daily report about threatening a law suit, then I think you have gone too far. Anything written on a blog becomes public domain. Personally I would be tickled pink if a blog post I wrote was picked up and repeated by another blog. Of course, I would have liked credit by mentioning my blog for the article. But they have now mentioned the source of this article which is the reason I am here now. So I too, think you need to chill out, over the law suit issue.</p>
<p>But having said all of this, I would like to recommend you look at a Carriage 5th wheel. I just purchased a Cameo about 4 months ago and am delighted with the quality craftsmanship of this RV. You would not be disappointed at all, with this 5th wheel. (No, I have no association with the company other than owning one of their products) I know I a very satisfied with the purchase.</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2942</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this any different from using sexy models or celebrities to sell cars? In both cases they&#039;re introducing an element of irrelevancy in hopes of reducing sales resistance. The bibles wouldn&#039;t be there if they didn&#039;t think it would help sales. Even if it wasn&#039;t done with a cynical motive, the circumstances make it seem as if it was. There&#039;s no reason for the customer to believe they&#039;re going to get better treatment from a dealer that waves its religious beliefs under your nose, and that&#039;s true whatever those beliefs are.

You don&#039;t have to even form an opinion of religion to think that this is bad marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this any different from using sexy models or celebrities to sell cars? In both cases they&#8217;re introducing an element of irrelevancy in hopes of reducing sales resistance. The bibles wouldn&#8217;t be there if they didn&#8217;t think it would help sales. Even if it wasn&#8217;t done with a cynical motive, the circumstances make it seem as if it was. There&#8217;s no reason for the customer to believe they&#8217;re going to get better treatment from a dealer that waves its religious beliefs under your nose, and that&#8217;s true whatever those beliefs are.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to even form an opinion of religion to think that this is bad marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow! Did any of you read the article? She was simply questioning the purpose of using the Bible as a marketing tool. If I had an RV business, and I happen to support the Neo-Nazi Aryan movement, putting a copy of Mein Kampf in the fridge probably wouldn&#039;t be the best idea if I wanted to maximize sales.

In Maria&#039;s situation, the dealership missed out on her business because they used a marketing technique that extended beyond the scope of the business transaction and infringed on very personal territory. Those who are puzzled by her reaction will never understand that &quot;sharing&quot; one&#039;s religion is an infringement because they are taught that it is their duty. Those who reject it are pitied and prayed for and those who accept it are brought into the fold (although I strongly doubt the conversion rate is high.)

I don&#039;t know much, but I do know when it comes to sales, you never talk about religion, sex, or politics. Unless, of course, you want to risk alienating potential customers.

It&#039;s puzzling how in a country where 92% of people believe in some sort of god, and have the right to worship whatever god they choose, that so many people feel stifled in their freedom of religious expression. Whenever a member of the 8% requests a well-deserved break from the incessant recruiting and &quot;sharing&quot;, they are accused of religious intolerance. I guess that&#039;s what happens when you&#039;re being told every day that the 8% are somehow threatening your very existence, and that evil forces are at work trying to systematically dismantle religion as we know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow! Did any of you read the article? She was simply questioning the purpose of using the Bible as a marketing tool. If I had an RV business, and I happen to support the Neo-Nazi Aryan movement, putting a copy of Mein Kampf in the fridge probably wouldn&#8217;t be the best idea if I wanted to maximize sales.</p>
<p>In Maria&#8217;s situation, the dealership missed out on her business because they used a marketing technique that extended beyond the scope of the business transaction and infringed on very personal territory. Those who are puzzled by her reaction will never understand that &#8220;sharing&#8221; one&#8217;s religion is an infringement because they are taught that it is their duty. Those who reject it are pitied and prayed for and those who accept it are brought into the fold (although I strongly doubt the conversion rate is high.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much, but I do know when it comes to sales, you never talk about religion, sex, or politics. Unless, of course, you want to risk alienating potential customers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s puzzling how in a country where 92% of people believe in some sort of god, and have the right to worship whatever god they choose, that so many people feel stifled in their freedom of religious expression. Whenever a member of the 8% requests a well-deserved break from the incessant recruiting and &#8220;sharing&#8221;, they are accused of religious intolerance. I guess that&#8217;s what happens when you&#8217;re being told every day that the 8% are somehow threatening your very existence, and that evil forces are at work trying to systematically dismantle religion as we know it.</p>
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		<title>By: McBlog &#187; Religion as underwear?</title>
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		<dc:creator>McBlog &#187; Religion as underwear?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog where she posts her thoughts, experiences and other items she finds worthy of archiving. One of her posts commented on Christianity and, like rancid meat, it&#8217;s drawn the annoying, sickening horde of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grant (Falcon124) McHerron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant (Falcon124) McHerron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is hilarious stuff here folks. The hate-speech of those who profess to follow a religion based on love really cracks me up.

Religion is like underwear - it says a lot about who you are, shapes your actions and can give you a comforting feeling, but if you keep showing it in public you can get a really bad name for yourself :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is hilarious stuff here folks. The hate-speech of those who profess to follow a religion based on love really cracks me up.</p>
<p>Religion is like underwear &#8211; it says a lot about who you are, shapes your actions and can give you a comforting feeling, but if you keep showing it in public you can get a really bad name for yourself :)</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2009/12/27/the-bible-in-the-refrigerator/#comment-2938</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-133496&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@JB&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;When bad behavior is described in the bible, it always has negative consequences.&quot;

What &quot;negative consequences&quot; did God suffer when he murdered infants in the flood? I must&#039;ve missed that verse.

And when Jesus preached hate and violence, what &quot;negative consequences&quot; did he go through? His execution was for other reasons.

The Bible is an obscene, immoral book of lies that tells us to eat the flesh and drink the blood of a magical Jewish zombie to save us from the sin of a rib-woman being tricked into eating a magical fruit by a talking snake.

I find it DISGUSTING that adults today still believe this nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-133496" rel="nofollow">@JB</a></p>
<p>&#8220;When bad behavior is described in the bible, it always has negative consequences.&#8221;</p>
<p>What &#8220;negative consequences&#8221; did God suffer when he murdered infants in the flood? I must&#8217;ve missed that verse.</p>
<p>And when Jesus preached hate and violence, what &#8220;negative consequences&#8221; did he go through? His execution was for other reasons.</p>
<p>The Bible is an obscene, immoral book of lies that tells us to eat the flesh and drink the blood of a magical Jewish zombie to save us from the sin of a rib-woman being tricked into eating a magical fruit by a talking snake.</p>
<p>I find it DISGUSTING that adults today still believe this nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-133505&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@J.S. Smyth&lt;/a&gt;

LOL!!! Thanks for proving just how ignorant and hateful some Christians can be. Just imagine if there WAS a heaven, filled with moronic religitards like you. THAT would be Hell. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-133505" rel="nofollow">@J.S. Smyth</a></p>
<p>LOL!!! Thanks for proving just how ignorant and hateful some Christians can be. Just imagine if there WAS a heaven, filled with moronic religitards like you. THAT would be Hell. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Langer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Langer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JS: Thanks so much for giving me my last good laugh of the old year. If you only knew how completely wacky you sound!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JS: Thanks so much for giving me my last good laugh of the old year. If you only knew how completely wacky you sound!</p>
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