Comments on: The Deadman’s Curve http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/ Web site and blog for Maria Langer, freelance writer, commercial helicopter pilot, and serious amateur photographer. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:43:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rich Bakker http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-9543 Rich Bakker Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:10:07 +0000 http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-9543 I agree with your blog completely. Furthermore I am stunned how many fixed wing pilots have the same silly ideas in their heads. I am often confronted with comments like "if the engine quits you drop like a brick" and I normally laugh at their ignorence. If a fruity photographer tells me to "get over it" I would simply tell him/her I am the captain. I decide whats safe not you. I dont tell you how to take your fruite photos, dont tell me how to fly this million pound machine. If you know so much fly yourself. Whenever I interview or quote for any job I allways clearly stipulate "I will never fly unless I am satisfied with the safety of the flight. If you cannot agree with that then I cannot agree to the job" People will walk all over you if you do not stand up for yourself. Yes people will call you an Ahole but alteast you will be alive. I agree with your blog completely. Furthermore I am stunned how many fixed wing pilots have the same silly ideas in their heads. I am often confronted with comments like “if the engine quits you drop like a brick” and I normally laugh at their ignorence. If a fruity photographer tells me to “get over it” I would simply tell him/her I am the captain. I decide whats safe not you. I dont tell you how to take your fruite photos, dont tell me how to fly this million pound machine. If you know so much fly yourself. Whenever I interview or quote for any job I allways clearly stipulate “I will never fly unless I am satisfied with the safety of the flight. If you cannot agree with that then I cannot agree to the job” People will walk all over you if you do not stand up for yourself. Yes people will call you an Ahole but alteast you will be alive.

]]> By: NOTR http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-1812 NOTR Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:41:02 +0000 http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-1812 As old chopper IP's used to say to me, "Young 'pileit" beware of the knee," referring to that curve. But in all truth that can be misleading. It was not uncommon for some checkrides to include OGE hovering autorotations in UH-1 series aircraft. They can be done safely, if you have the experience. They are also NOT an approved manuever! :) <em>NOTR's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Rofasix/~3/279582395/la.html' rel="nofollow">Los Angeles Wages War on Bacon Dogs</a></em> As old chopper IP’s used to say to me, “Young ‘pileit” beware of the knee,” referring to that curve. But in all truth that can be misleading.

It was not uncommon for some checkrides to include OGE hovering autorotations in UH-1 series aircraft. They can be done safely, if you have the experience. They are also NOT an approved manuever! :)

NOTR’s last blog post..Los Angeles Wages War on Bacon Dogs

]]> By: Greybeard http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-1811 Greybeard Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:21:29 +0000 http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-1811 Great post and spot on, Maria! Are you, like me, amazed at the dis-information out there? In the EMS field, I wonder how many heart attacks we worsen by loading a patient aboard that worries about the rotor coming to a dead stop if the engines quit. And we both know, there ARE a few that think that. Along with "It's an aerodynamic brick if the engine quits, right?", you can add, (indirectly related to your post): "It can take off vertically over that 200 foot obstacle, right?" As an industry, we've done a terrible job of educating the public and our customers. I'm hopeful blogs like yours and mine will help remedy that. <em>Greybeard's last blog post..<a href='http://pitchpull.blogspot.com/2008/04/why.html' rel="nofollow">Why?</a></em> Great post and spot on, Maria!

Are you, like me, amazed at the dis-information out there?

In the EMS field, I wonder how many heart attacks we worsen by loading a patient aboard that worries about the rotor coming to a dead stop if the engines quit. And we both know, there ARE a few that think that.

Along with “It’s an aerodynamic brick if the engine quits, right?”, you can add, (indirectly related to your post):

“It can take off vertically over that 200 foot obstacle, right?”

As an industry, we’ve done a terrible job of educating the public and our customers. I’m hopeful blogs like yours and mine will help remedy that.

Greybeard’s last blog post..Why?

]]> By: Mike http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-1810 Mike Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:40:01 +0000 http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2008/04/27/the-deadmans-curve/#comment-1810 Hi Maria, nice post. I came across this Youtube video a couple of days ago and kept thinking about the HV diagram. I particularly like the ground run. http://youtube.com/watch?v=jH03stFao4k. A classic example of 'don't try this at home'. I don't think you should train for a situation you are not supposed to let happen. Don't know if you've done the RHC safety course, but they ran a video when they were determining the figures for their HV...with a couple of messy 'landings'. I saw an R44 in an OGE hover over a large public event last year in Houston. He was only about 400' up, I remember thinking he was nuts, even at that altitude. Anyway, keep up the good work and send more video from your helicopter. Maybe next time you fly over a town or city? Hi Maria, nice post. I came across this Youtube video a couple of days ago and kept thinking about the HV diagram. I particularly like the ground run. http://youtube.com/watch?v=jH03stFao4k. A classic example of ‘don’t try this at home’. I don’t think you should train for a situation you are not supposed to let happen.

Don’t know if you’ve done the RHC safety course, but they ran a video when they were determining the figures for their HV…with a couple of messy ‘landings’. I saw an R44 in an OGE hover over a large public event last year in Houston. He was only about 400′ up, I remember thinking he was nuts, even at that altitude.

Anyway, keep up the good work and send more video from your helicopter. Maybe next time you fly over a town or city?

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